#73 | Labyrinth 2: Revenge of the Goblin Queen

July 13, 2018
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A disturbed teenage girl. A baby-snatching goblin king with a distractingly prominent codpiece. A supporting cast of creature features ranging from bizarre to frankly terrifying. Every scene of Jim Henson's Labyrinth is burned into the memories of a generation of movie viewers.

With the late-great David Bowie taking the iconic role of Jareth, the aforementioned well endowed Goblin King, any proposed sequel to this 80s classic would have to wrestle with the unthinkable prospect of recasting. Who could possibly step into his shoes? This week on Beyond The Box Set, we've challenged ourselves to come up with some ideas...

Labyrinth is a rare film that we both have equally strong memories of, proving that despite initially poor box office returns, the movie enjoys a truly timeless appeal. Join us on this week's episode as we discuss bad acting vs dream acting, the bizarre genius of the Bog of Eternal Stench and why Sir Didymus is the absolute worst...

 

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00.00: Seriously, that codpiece...

27.50: Labyrinth Drinking Games

33.45: Labyrinth: A 30 Rock Production

47.40: Labyrinth 2: Revenge of the Goblin Queen

1.02.00: Listener Submissions & Episode 74 Preview

#72 | Yentl: Master of Disguise

July 5, 2018
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She sings! She acts! She directs! Barbra Streisand is perhaps the ultimate triple-threat pop icon, and she makes her Beyond The Box Set debut this week as we pitch sequel ideas for her 1983 passion project Yentl...

The story of a plucky young(?) Jewish girl whose insatiable passion for learning drives her to disguise herself as a man, Yentl was a movie over two decades in the making for Streisand. In addition to directing and starring in the movie, she also produced it and co-wrote the screenplay.

Her dedication was rewarded when the movie was released to strong box office returns and enthusiastic reviews - Steven Spielberg famously described the film as "the greatest directorial debut since Citizen Kane" - although his then-girlfriend Amy Irving played the second female lead, so he might have been slightly biased. 

In this week's episode we discuss Yentl's surprisingly complex depiction of gender and sexuality, the unexpected sexiness of 80s Mandy Patinkin, why the soft focus lighting is practically a fourth character in this movie and much more... before moving on to sequel pitches that attempt to tackle the eternal question - who could possibly replace Barbra Streisand in a movie? 

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00.00: God Damn Mandy Patinkin! 

31.00: Yentl Drinking Games

38.20: Yentl: Master of Disguise

46.50: Yentl: A Titanic Talent

1.01.00: Listener Submissions & Episode 73 Preview

#71 | Spice World 2: Fallen Kingdom

June 28, 2018
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I'll tell you what we want, what we really, really want... a sequel to Spice World, the 1997 meta-comedy / cash in released to capitalise on the brief but phenomenal popularity of Scary, Sporty, Ginger, Baby and Posh - collectively known as The Spice Girls. 

As a quintessential child of the nineties, John is a die-hard Spice Girls fan who's seen the band live, knows their albums inside out - even the rubbish third one - and still lives his life according to the principles of Girl Power. Harry vaguely remembers that his sisters used to listen to them occasionally...

Will our co-hosts find common ground in revisiting this musical time capsule? Join us as we discuss the impenetrable plot, pointless celebrity cameos and the unexpected comic genius of Victoria 'Posh Spice' Beckham...

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00.00: Everyone who hates this movie is objectively stupid

23.20: Spice World Drinking Games

30.35: SGCU - A Spice Girls Cinematic Universe

44.10: Spice World II: Fallen Kingdom

59.45: Listener Submissions & Episode 72 Preview

 

#70 | Three Kings 2: Three Wise Men (feat. FlixWatcher)

June 21, 2018
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In a very special Podcast crossover episode, Helen and Kobi from FlixWatcher join us to discuss David O.Russell's darkly comedic Gulf War movie Three Kings, starring George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg and Ice Cube.

Released in 1999, Three Kings was a major breakthrough for O.Russell, grossing over $100 million and achieving widespread critical acclaim. It tells the story of four US soldiers attempting to steal a hidden cache of war gold from Iraqi soldiers during a tense 1991 ceasefire between the two countries, until a series of surprisingly brutal mishaps turn their adventure into a rescue mission. 

Join us as we discuss on-set tensions, Mark Wahlberg's journey from The Funky Bunch to serious actor and the time Harry went on a family holiday to Iraq, before attempting to navigate our near-total ignorance of middle-eastern geopolitics in pursuit of some workable sequel ideas...

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00.00: This movie holds up. Silver Linings Playbook does not. 

32.55: Three Kings Drinking Games

40.10: Three Kings II: Six Royals 

47.00: Three Kings 2: Three Wise Men

1.02.30: Listener Submissions & Episode 71 Preview

 

#69 | Mermaids 2: Search for the Merman

June 14, 2018
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There are certain actors we'll watch in just about anything. Cher is one, Winona Ryder is another. In Mermaids, the pair play mother and daughter, with Christina Ricci and Bob Hoskins in supporting roles and a fabulous 1960s soundtrack in the background. Let's be realistic, there was never any way we weren't going to love this movie.

Released in 1990, a time when both women were at the height of their movie careers, Mermaids is a gentle coming of age dramedy based on a novel by Patty Dunn. It's very much a product of its time, but a little bit darker and more thoughtful than you probably remember it being - particularly if, like us, your main memory of the film is that it featured Cher's cover of the Shoop Shoop Song. 

This week on Beyond The Box Set, we're joined by returning guest Lucy Meredith to discuss iconic wigs, Winona's intense inner monologues, the ineffable sex appeal of Bob Hoskins and more. We also pitch some scenarios to reunite these two quintessential Hollywood survivors in a sequel - with ideas including a musical, multiple road trips and an unlikely genre-shift into 'Black Swan' style body horror...

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00.00: Demented monologues and iconic slap scenes 

36.00: Mermaids Drinking Games

43.20: Mermaids 2: Search For The Merman

57.00: Mermaids 2: A Body Horror With Actual Mermaids In It

1.04.45: Mermaids II: On The Road

1.12.35: Listener Submissions & Episode 70 Preview

#68 | The Boy Next Door 2: Who Is Jennifer Lopez?

June 7, 2018
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Jennifer Lopez is a diva, an icon and one of the defining celebrities of the 21st Century... that's what co-host John thinks, anyway. Harry, on the other hand, has never knowingly seen or heard anything she's ever done. 

Hence, the latest edition of our increasingly inaccurate 'Sing Your Way To An Oscar' mini-season offers a crash-course in J.Lo, as we revisit one of her most recent cinematic successes - the campy, ridiculous but strangely compelling The Boy Next Door

Like much of J.Lo's oeuvre, The Boy Next Door received scathing reviews but proved to be oddly critic-proof; grossing $52.4 million against a 4 million budget. While the movie doesn't exactly leave the door open for a sequel, we definitely think there's franchise potential here. 

Join us in this feature-length episode as we celebrate some of our favourite ludicrous scenes - from J.Lo's improbably glamour to Kristen Chenoweth's gleeful scenery chewing - before diving into some sequel pitches that include a classic slasher and the unlikely but possibly genius concept of Jenny from the Block doing a Spike Jonze movie. 

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00.00: Costumes by Versace, Lighting by Streisand 

56.00: The Boy Next Door Drinking Games

1.03.50: The Boy Next Door: Who Is Jennifer Lopez?

1.24.00: The Boy Next Door II: The Obligatory Straight to DVD Sequel  

1.36.00: Listener Submissions & Episode 69 Preview

#67 | School of Rock 2: Mr Schneebly’s Opus

May 31, 2018
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If you have any doubt about how important Jack Black was to the success of School of Rock, just try to imagine literally any other comic actor in his age range playing the part. The role of Dewey Finn, a dangerously unqualified supply teacher who nevertheless uses his musical talent and boundless enthusiasm to inspire a class of pre-teens is probably the purest expression of Black's talents ever seen on the big screen.

It's also a movie that's aged phenomenally well - give or take a dodgy reference or two. So despite John's general antipathy towards rock 'n' roll purists, it was a surprising delight to revisit. In this episode, we talk questionable nicknames, daytime rock concerts and the instant screen legend that is Billy the costume designer, before pitching some ideas for a long overdue class reunion... 

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00.00: It's not tacky, and we don't hate it

25.30: School of Rock Drinking Games 

32.30: The Culinary School of Rock

46.00: School of Rock 2: Growing Up

56.20: Listener Submissions & Episode 68 Preview

#65 | Treasure Planet 2: A Disney Crime Story

May 18, 2018
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Finding a Disney movie with no sequels is a pretty tall order, so this week we drafted in a professional. James Mason PHD has an actual doctorate in Disney - making him the perfect guest to talk through the underrated 2002 sci-fi Treasure Planet - a rare misfire that was swiftly buried by the Disney corporation after its warm reviews failed to translate into box office receipts.

The long-gestating passion project of directors Ron Clements and John Musker, Treasure Planet takes Robert Louis Stevenson's classic adventure Treasure Island and reboots it in a colourful futuristic galaxy populated by robots and aliens. The film is a notable change of pace from many Disney animations, with a lack of big musical numbers and a plot that eschews traditional love interests and focuses instead on the complicated father-son relationship played out by Hawkins and the morally compromised Long John Silber. 

In this episode, we discuss daddy issues, horrible Goo Goo Dolls songs and 'The Jar Jar Factor' - all of which make Treasure Planet a flawed but fascinating addition to the Disney Animated canon. We also pitch our own sequels to the movie, including a prequel that reveals the fate of Jim Hawkins' absent father, a round of recontextualised spin-offs featuring dinosaurs, mean teens and 90s sitcom stars, and what we're pretty sure would be Disney's first ever LGBT-themed part-animated murder thriller...

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00.00: The Muppets Did It Better

29.40: Treasure Planet Drinking Games

41.40: Treasure Planet 2: The Map To Treasure Planet

55.50: Treasure Planet: A Disney Crime Story

1.03.05: Treasure Granite, Treasure High-Land and Treasure I-Friends

1.18.50: Listener Submissions & Episode 66 Preview

#64 | Waterworld 2: The Shape of Waterworld

May 10, 2018
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You may find this week's episode of Beyond The Box Set to be bloated, incoherent and confused. If so, consider it a tribute to this week's featured movie. Directed by Kevin Reynolds with a lot of alleged back-seat meddling from star Kevin Costner, Waterworld is an unholy mess of an action-adventure epic that quickly went down in history as one of the most notorious bombs of its time.

Watching the movie back to day, there's actually a lot to enjoy about Waterworld, and the film certainly has its defenders. But it's also a film that makes a lot of baffling choices, leaving a potentially interesting premise drowning in jarring tonal shifts and bewildering plot mechanics. 

In this week's extended episode, join us as we spend the best part of an hour just attempting to untangle Waterworld's plot, discuss the bizarre un-likability of Kevin Costner and attempt to salvage this movie from its watery grave with some potential sequel ideas - including a Wonder Woman inspired return to Dryland, and an apocalyptic crossover with shades of Dan Harmon...

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00.00: What's Kevin Costner's Appeal? 

56.50: The Science of Waterworld w/Ross Burton

59.55: Waterworld Drinking Games

1.07.20: The Shape of Waterworld

1.24.50: Waterworld 2 - The Four Elements

1.38.15: Listener Submissions & Episode 65 Preview

#62 | Matilda 2: No More Miss Nice Girl

April 26, 2018
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It's colourful, quotable and it inspired a generation of children to spend countless hours fruitlessly staring at glasses of water... this week on Beyond The Box Set, we continue our actors-turned-directors mini-season with a look back at Danny DeVito's utterly delightful adaptation of Roald Dahl's Matilda.

Already an emerging child star thanks to roles in classic movies like Mrs Doubtfire and Miracle on 34th Street, Mara Wilson turned in the defining role of her career as the book-loving heroine Matilda Wormwood. Character actress Pam Ferris, meanwhile, chewed scenery with abandon as the monstrous Ms Trunchbull, proving that the best movie villains should always be characters we secretly sort of root for.

In this week's episode - the latest edition in our ongoing series on movies by actors-turned-directors - we look back at the delicate balance of darkness and whimsy that makes Matilda one of the all time great films for children, and attempt to brainstorm what a sequel might look like over twenty years later...

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00.00: Ms Trunchbull was in the wrong profession

21.10: Matilda Drinking Games (Over 18s only)

32.50: Matilda 2: Trunchbull's Last Stand

44.20: Matilda 2: No More Miss Nice Girl

1.00.30: Listener Submissions & Episode 63 Preview